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I appreciate the reference to the wheat and tares growing up together by Fr. Gregory. As a Protestant, I am more comfortable with utilizing the ideas of a remnant, pruned olive branches from the covenant tree, and the removal of lampstands of systemically disobedient churches. This is rooted in our understanding that there is not a one to one correlation with those participating in the signs and mysteries of the covenant and those that truly are "Israel" in the regenerate sense. But, these analogies make possible the cutting off of something more than tares sorted out at the end of the world. It means that visible churches can be lost to the true church, lose vital connection to the head and be abandoned by the "angel", trunk, or Spirit of God.

All churches have had some means of declaring apostasy and schism on these terms. And I don't usually think it is wise to evoke such things in geo-political conflicts. Yet, complicity with Fascism for Lutherans and Communism for the Orthodox must be close if any such determination can be made. Without an Ambrose that can refuse the Emperor, the imperial co-opting of the church seems imminent in many ages, to eh ruin of real patriarchy- ie. faithful fatherhood. As certain movements in America begin to really look like neo-Fascism, cronyism and neo-Marxism, this will become very relevant for us real soon.

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